Stop Family Fights #5: Managing Expectations

Stop Family Fights #5: Managing Expectations


Hello and welcome to our video that covers the 5th and final tip of ways to help stop the fighting and disagreements within your family.

Here, we cover the way we help manage expectations in our family. Because really, deep down inside, children want to please Mom and Dad. They really do. They want to grow and become productive. They want to have success and it just depends on expectations.

Watch on to learn about the tool we use called 360 Delegation. It may sound a little strange, but the 3 steps within this tool can really help set the expectation that your child needs.

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MARGIE – Hello, there! We’re here with tip number 5, how to stop the fight in your family and especially, how to stop it before it ever escalates and even starts.

JOSHUA – Right, which really begs the question, why do children yell and scream and fight anyway? Especially when it comes to their parents. Why do they get so frustrated with parents? And why is there so much contention and irritation going on there? We’re going to tell you all about that in just a minute. But for now, remember, we’ve got a free gift for you.

MARGIE – A free gift, yep.

JOSHUA – We’ve got something that we’ve prepared for you that’s going to help you immensely in creating more joy and happiness inside your family, so stick around and we’ll give you all the details on that free gift. Let’s go back to this question. Why is it, dream girl? Why is this that they get so frustrated? When you see our children get frustrated at us, what’s going on there?

MARGIE – A lot of times, it’s because their expectations are not being met.

JOSHUA – Right.

MARGIE – They expect certain things to happen and it’s not happening that way, and so it’s frustrating to them, and they start yelling and fighting and complaining and whining and fussing and pretty soon…

JOSHUA – And especially there is conflict between parents and children. Now I saw this roll out beautifully, this concept of how expectation causes us to be grumpy, in this little experience I saw in a king bed versus a queen bed. Recently, we spoke at a conference and it was this great big resort, so I’m in the line, and there’s a big line standing there. I finally get up to the counter, and I look to the side of me here, and this other gal checking in is there standing there by herself, there’s no attendant helping her. A few minutes later, the attendant comes back and she’s got the manager with her. And as soon as the manager walks up, this gal explodes. She just unloads on this manager, and here was the problem. She had reserved a king sized bed in a certain location in the hotel. And they had overbooked or something had happened there, and they weren’t able to accommodate her original reservation. And so the manager was great. He was like, “Ma’am, here’s what we’re going to do. We have this other suite on the other side of the hotel. It does have a queen size bed in it, but it’s got twice as many amenities. It’s much bigger. It’s in a nicer place. It’s newly remodeled. And we’re going to let you have that for no additional cost, plus we’re going to pay for your parking. Plus we’ll pay for your resort fee and give you some credits at, you know, the restaurant, etc, etc.” I mean he bent over backwards. Was she happy?

MARGIE – She wouldn’t have it.

JOSHUA – Was she satisfied? No, she was still totally frustrated. Now, any other given day, she would have been ecstatic about the opportunity to have this really nice luxury room, but what was the problem? The problem was, she couldn’t see past her expectations. She was still just wired up and frustrated about this. Now, we see this all the time. And in my business, I have a coach, a guy that helps me with lots of different stuff named Tim Francis. And Tim taught me this concept called 360 delegation. Thanks, Tim. This was a great idea. And it’s something that Margie and I have been doing for years and years…

MARGIE – He put a label on it.

JOSHUA – Yeah, he put a label on it, and he put steps to it. So we’re going to teach you about this next thing under the banner of this 360 delegation, and let you see how you can apply it inside of your business.

MARGIE – Because so much of parenting is delegation, right? That’s what we do in parenting. We delegate. We’re teaching our children what to do. How to do it. How we expect them to perform or to fulfill certain things so they can become wonderful responsible adults.

JOSHUA – Exactly. I mean there’s zillions that you’ve got to delegate, and just as Margie said, it’s the process that we use to help children actually become wonderful and amazing individuals. And as I was thinking about this whole delegation process, I thought of Ben Carson. And some of you maybe know the story of Ben Carson. There was a movie done about him called Gifted Hands. And if you remember how the story rolls out, his mother was illiterate, they lived in the ghettos of Detroit, they basically were… you know, poor single mother…

MARGIE – Failing schools.

JOSHUA – Failing school, lot of anger, lot of frustration, and every day their expectation was they’ve got to come home from school, sti on the couch, and watch 5, 6, 7 hours of TV and then go to bed, go to school, sleep through school, come home, and watch TV. Well finally, she got a job cleaning houses. Nice houses. And she realized a lot of these really wealthy people had libraries, and they read a lot of books. And so she changed up the expectation. She came home, she turned the TV off, and she was like, “No more TV. From now on, you’re going to read two books a week before you watch TV, and you’re going to write a report and give me the report every single week on it.” She changed the expectation. And of course, Ben and his brother freaked out at first. Now when you change the expectations in your house, just be warned. Your children are going to resist it and be really frustrated. But notice what happened with Ben and his brother. After a while, when she didn’t relent, they honored the limit, the new expectation, and they started reading the books, and pretty soon they loved it.

MARGIE – Loved learning.

JOSHUA – They loved it. And consequently both of them became very successful. Ben became one of the most renowned brain surgeons in the world. And his brother went on to have a great career doing a bunch of other stuff. And the thing that changed was the mother’s expectation and her following up on that. So there’s a pattern here on how to do this. So let’s talk about that 360 delegation, right?

MARGIE – Number one, you’ve got to have a vision. What is the vision that you’re trying to attain here with your children?

JOSHUA – Yeah. What’s the thing that you want to accomplish? So in Ben Carson’s case, Mom wanted them to be able to pass school and be smart. In everyday mundane things, you’ve got things like cleaning the toilet, making food or running errands…

MARGIE – Making your bed…

JOSHUA – Cleaning up your bed. Whatever it is.

MARGIE – How you treat your siblings.

JOSHUA – You’ve got to be able to give them a clear picture of exactly what it is you expect from them. You’re establishing the expectation. Here’s exactly what I want to have done. Okay, now the next thing is…

MARGIE – Number two, resources. What resources do you need to be able to fulfill the expectation?

JOSHUA – Right. So if you’re telling them to keep the room clean, what kind of resources in terms of knowledge, physical resources, cleaning products, a vacuum…

MARGIE – Do they have a dresser, do they have a drawer for each of their clothes? Hangers? All that stuff. A vacuum?

JOSHUA – There’s a whole set of resources, from training to proper things that they need to have in order to be able to accomplish that. You’ve got to empower them to actually do it. So the next thing is you need to give them a definition of done. So this is a little different from the vision about what you want to have happen long term. This is, “I will know this is done and done right when…” And you fill in the blank. Whatever that looks like.

MARGIE – What does clean look like in this room, or in this bathroom or…

JOSHUA – Exactly. So what is the definition? Now, Tim uses these three steps. What is the vision? What are the resources needed? And what’s the definition of done? The definition of done is also going to include things like what’s the deadline. When does this need to get done by. Okay? Now, we have always added one additional thing to this and that is what are the rewards, or punishments, consequences, positive or negative, for either completing this or not completing it. Getting it done on time, not done on time. So again, they know exactly what the expectations are in terms of being able to accomplish and fulfill this project. Okay? Now, should we give them a couple of examples?

MARGIE – Yeah, give them an example.

JOSHUA –  So let’s start with cleaning the bathroom. So each of our children come up to the age when they’re assigned to clean the bathroom. The first thing that we do is I will walk through the bathroom, and look around, and say, “Okay, what looks out of place here?” And we’ll have a conversation about, “Well, you know, there’s soap all over the counter. There’s towels on the floor. The toilet still has funky yellow stuff going on on the bottom of it.” And when I point out all the different things, and say, “Okay. Here’s what I would like to see here. I would like to see this so that the bathroom’s all clean, so that if the President of the United States or one of our church leaders or Mother came in here, she would say, ah, this is clean, and smells good, and is fresh.” And we walk through a vision of what that is. Okay, to do that, what do we need? We’re going to need some toilet bowl cleaner. We’re going to need some disinfectant spray. You’re going to need some towels, you know, duh duh duh, all these things. You’ll need a place to put the towels and hang them up in. Going to need to refill the soaps, you’ll need extra soap.” So there’s all these different things that we say, okay, this is the list of resources. And then again, I know that this is done when in 30 minutes, I can walk back in here and inspect and say this is good for the Queen of England to come and use the bathroom at our house, right? That’s the definition of done. And if you get it done within half an hour, then we will have some ice cream or get to go to the park or you’ll get my praise and love… whatever it is, there’s a reward there. And if you don’t, then we’re going to work on it until it gets done, and then we’ll practice on all the other bathrooms, and if you complain about it, I’ve got a New Deal for you, and we’ll do a bunch of other stuff, right?

MARGIE – The New Deal card.

JOSHUA – Right. So there’s a whole list of things there. So that’s the example of what we would do in terms of cleaning the bathroom. Walk through with them. Show them what it looks like. Give them the resources. Give them a time frame and a reward. Okay? Now this is your specialty.

MARGIE – Here’s another one. Errands and shopping. A lot of times, we’ll send our older children. “Here, run to the store. Go pick this up. We’re going to have dinner soon, we need these three items or whatever.” And so I’ll give them a list. I’ll make sure they have money in their account, because we’re always transferring money to them when they’re doing shopping for us. I’ll explain what the list is. Do I need two heads of lettuce? Or do I want tomatoes that are soft, or hard or…you know, whatever. And then I give them a time limit. “I want you back here by this certain time.”

JOSHUA – So every one of the little things is all spelled out.

MARGIE – The reward is you get to eat! We’ll make a salad. Making meals.

JOSHUA – Making meals. So talk about that, because you’re so good at getting the children to do this.

MARGIE – Well, we take turns having different children prepare meals. And so the first week or two, I’m right there with them, working on things and teaching them about timeline and if we want to eat dinner at 6, these things need to happen in the right order for everything to be ready at the same time. I’m always teaching them about how… don’t burn the bottom of the pan… you know. Butter the toast when it’s warm instead of cold.

JOSHUA – So there’s just butter sitting on top of it. If it actually melts, that’s always a plus. So there’s all these little things, that she walks through, and there’s printed menus, and shopping lists, and she talks with them about, “Before we go shopping, what else is needed? You’re in charge of breakfast, do we need anything else? Are we out of eggs? Do we need some more milk? Do we need butter?” And so there’s this whole process of stuff that goes on there, so that their expectations… they know exactly what to do, when to do it, and what it looks like when it’s done, and done right. And then their expectations are set so that they’re not fussing and complaining. We do the same thing… every morning, we have a family council, and we walk through the schedule for the day. What needs to happen today? We establish the expectations, and if things need to get delegated, we use this process that we just talked about. So, our challenge to you is look at where there is frustration and contention and ask yourself if it’s not a by-product of mismanaged expectations, and can you manage expectations better by using some form of Tim’s brilliant 360 degree delegation process, and taking some time limits and rewards and consequences onto it.

MARGIE – I think you’ll be really surprised at the results of this one point that we’re teaching you today, because it’s made such a difference for us.

JOSHUA – Huge difference. Because really, deep down inside, children want to please Mom and Dad. They really do. They want to grow and become productive. They want to have success and it just depends on expectations. So just like Ben Carson, deep down inside, he really did want to be somebody great. He just didn’t have the framework to do it in, and so when Mom took away TV and compelled him to move into books, it gave him the framework. And your children will do the same thing. They’ll respond, and they’ll love you, and they’ll be super excited for what they are becoming in this process, as you help them to see what your expectations are and get them the tools to fulfill them. Alright. If you’ll stick around, we have a free gift for you. It’ll help you implement all this stuff and have a ton of fun doing it. We want to hear your story. Jump on the Facebook page and give us some comments, give us some feedback and some insights into how this is working for you. We’d love to hear from you. Until then, do everything you can every day to find great joy and connect with your family. Life’s really short. Make the most of it. Talk to you soon. Bye.

Stop Family Fights #4: Non-Negotiables

Stop Family Fights #4: Non-Negotiables


Hello and welcome to our video that covers tip #4 (in the 5-part series) of ways to help stop the fighting and disagreements within your family.

Here, we cover the principle of non-negotiables. Non-negotiables is one of the most powerful things you can do inside of your home in order to stop the fighting, the yelling and the issues before they ever arise. So how does this non-negotiable thing work?

Watch on to see what we mean by a non-negotiable and the 4 things you need to do to ensure success of this principle in your family!

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Hello there! We’re here with tip number 4, how to stop the fight in our families. But more importantly, how to stop the fight before it even starts, right?

JOSHUA – Right. Before we get into that, just a reminder, if you stick around to the end, we’ve got a free gift for you. We’ve developed a number of resources that go far more in depth into parenting and how to run your household and how to bring greater joy and happiness into your family. We want to share those with you. We’ve got an entire parenting system for you that’s free. No costs. So stick around to the end and we’ll give you the details on how you get hold of that. Also at the end of this, we have a surprise for you.

MARGIE – Surprise ending! Yay!

JOSHUA – Meaning we’re going to share with you some ideas that’ll help you find techniques for stopping fighting and yelling and contention in the house before it happens, but there’s also a very powerful way to do this that you might not have thought of and so we’re going to share an idea with you at the end that will really surprise you that you will really enjoy. So stick around for that.

MARGIE – We have a story for you today. It’s about a little boy named Tommy.

JOSHUA – Tommy and the beans.

MARGIE – Tommy and the beans. He came to stay at our house for a few days. Six, seven years old? How old was he?

JOSHUA – Yeah, he was about seven.

MARGIE – Okay. And his mom was having a few struggles with him and things like that, and we were getting close to dinner time. And I pulled him aside, and said, “Okay, Tommy. One of the rules of our house is we eat, and we all eat the same food. And we don’t complain about it. We don’t whine. We don’t fuss about the meal. It’s there, whatever food is there, we eat it, and we happily eat it. Right?”

JOSHUA – Whatever you’re served is what you get, basically. And he seemed to understand.

MARGIE – I thought he understood.

JOSHUA – I just knew that in his world, that he was mostly served junk food, and so it was almost guaranteed that whatever we put on the table, he was not going to be overly excited about.

MARGIE – That’s true. So I think it was Mexican dinner that night… well, yeah. Beans.

JOSHUA – Beans.

MARGIE – So we set up to eat. We start serving everyone. I give him some rice, and he says, “Oh, I hate rice. This looks awful. Yuck. I don’t want to eat this. Give me something else.”

JOSHUA – You know the best part about that was when… as he’s saying this, I’m looking around at our children, because our children know what the rule is.

MARGIE – They know the rule. That’s right.

JOSHUA – And he start in about how he hates rice, and this and that, and don’t you have anything else and blah blah blah… and I look over at Esther, and she has this look on her face. And she would have been, oh about 10 or 11 at the time. And she’s got this look on her face like, “Oh this is not going to go well. Should not go down this road.”

MARGIE – So then we proceed and I serve him up… “Here’s some beans for you, to go with this rice.”

JOSHUA – And just to be clear, before we tell the rest of the story, we did give him fair warning. Because, he’s a newbie, right? So it’s like, Tommy, remember, we don’t complain about the food. So I understand you probably don’t like rice, that maybe you’ve never even tasted this kind of rice, but we don’t complain about the food. Just fair warning. So then the beans came.

MARGIE – So here come the beans.  And he just blew up. He said, “I hate beans, I’m not eating this, I’m so sick of trying to eat your food and all this…” So immediately, Joshua stands up. No warning.

JOSHUA – No warning. This is important.

MARGIE – No warning. Goes, picks him up, takes him into the couch, sets him on the couch and says, “You can stay here until we’re done eating, or until you apologize and want to come and eat with us.”

JOSHUA – Now I knew something about Tommy. He was a very very social child. He loved being around people. He loved attention. So I had already thought through, “Okay. What’s going to happen when he decides that he’s not going to eat any of this food?” So that was my response. Just immediately grabbed him, little shock factor, picked him up, not roughly, just picked him up and said, “Okay. You get to sit out here all by yourself, not eat any dinner, and just enjoy yourself.” And then I went back into the kitchen.

MARGIE – We all just continue eating as though nothing had happened.

JOSHUA – A few minutes later, we hear Tommy in there, crying…

MARGIE – Whimpering.

JOSHUA – Whimpering and crying, and so I went back in there, and knelt down in front of him, like, “Alright, Tommy, here’s the deal. If you will apologize for fussing and whining about what food you’re being served, and come in and happily eat your dinner, then we’ll pretend nothing ever happened and go on with our dinner.” And he kind of sniffled, and dried his eyes, and said, “Okay.” Came walking back in, sat down, and tentatively took a little bite of the beans, and then he was like, “I love beans!”

MARGIE – “These are great!” And just proceeded to finish eating his dinner.

JOSHUA – He was all excited.

MARGIE – He finally realized we were serious about what we were saying. This wasn’t a threat. There was an exact consequence for what you’re doing.

JOSHUA – Now this is a principle. This is not necessarily a technique because it’s applicable in so many different categories but this is definitely a principle and we could call this principle non-negotiables. And Non-negotiables is one of the most powerful thing you can do inside of your home in order to stop the fighting and the yelling and the issues before they ever arise. Okay? So how does this non-negotiable thing work? Well, if you think back to this story that we just talked about, Tommy and the beans, you’ll find that there’s a pattern in a number of things. Do you want to tell them about the first one?

MARGIE – Yeah. The first one is we need to have clear rules. And our children need to know that. For example, one of the rules in our home is you don’t talk back to Mom.

JOSHUA – Let me get to that. Let’s tell them the other three rules so they can see the whole example here. So first one is you have to have clear rules. So remember we sat down with Tommy and Margie said, “Tommy, here’s the deal. You’re going to be served dinner, but there’s no fussing or complaining or whining about the food.” That was the clear rule.


JOSHUA – The second thing is you’ve got to have clear consequences. Now we had told him in advance that if he didn’t like the food and he whined and fussed about it, then he would be removed from the table and would be able to have dinner. I mean, it was a crystal clear consequence.

MARGIE – Yeah. And then number three, you’ve got to enforce it immediately. So that they know that this is a real rule, this is a real consequence. This is really going to happen instead of threat after threat after threat that we see so often in families sometimes.

JOSHUA – Far and away the worst thing you can do is just threaten and threaten and have rules that you never follow up on, because the child gets used to having no boundaries and then they become spoiled and a little reckless. Remember that old expression that says next to your love, your children need your rules. They need your limits. They need regulations. You know, I think about this inside of each of our own lives, we all need to know where the boundaries are. We need to know what the game rules are. Even people that are adrenaline junkies, and are like jumping out of airplanes and pulling parachutes… they still need to know, okay. What are the boundaries? What can be done? What can’t be done? And they want to know what the limitations are. When do I pull the cord if I’m jumping out of the airplane? So these kinds of things are really important. And then of course, immediate consequences. So are you going to tell them about… one of our non-negotiables is you don’t talk back to Margie in any way, shape, or form. Not verbally, not emotionally by rolling your eyes, not body language, and particularly no disrespecting Margie in the sense of completely ignoring her. So a while back… our family loves Rubix cubes and mind game kind of stuff, puzzles and whatnot. So one of our children was sitting on the couch playing this Rubix cube and messing around with it, and Margie walked in. Said their name, gave them a specific assignment and started to walk away. And the child completely and totally ignored Margie. And so Margie, being nice, turned around and gave the request one more time. And I’m on the other side of the room watching this roll out. And the child just continued to ignore Margie. Well that’s a violation of like rule number one in the house, of respecting Mother. So without any warning, without any discussion about it, I walked over, grabbed the Rubix cube, smashed it, picked up the pieces, and put it in the garbage. And I turned around to the children, and I said, “Alright, who else would like to disrespect and ignore Mother?” And then I turned to him and I said, “Your mother asked you to do something, and you’d better do it right now.” Now we later had a conversation, and talked it out, and I said, “Look, I’m sorry the Rubix cube got destroyed, but the fact is you violated a known non-negotiable in the house, and it’s just not acceptable. You had to suffer the consequences.” And so sometimes parents will be like, whoa, that’s really harsh. I can’t believe you did that, this that or the other, but you have to let them know that there are very specific predefined limits, and if you’re always negotiating those and being soft, and not implementing consequences that you said you were going to implement immediately, then the problem would just get worse and worse and worse and worse, and you’ll never get anywhere in terms of helping your children grow to their full potential.

MARGIE – And you sacrificing that $8 toy is so worth what you’re getting out of it. The long term benefits of what you’re teaching your child. And the rest of the children that were standing there watching, right? It’s a long term lesson that needs to be learned as soon as possible in a child’s life so that it will have the benefit throughout their life.

JOSHUA – Now, these long term lessons are something that we call high leverage aspects. In other words, we don’t have non-negotiables for everything that goes on inside the house. We have non-negotiables for a handful of things that we consider high leverage. For example, think about the consequence of not disrespecting Mother. Now, when she asks for things to be done or she gives direction, they know that disrespecting her, not doing it, or ignoring her is a non-negotiable and so they immediately begin to act on it. Now if you think through that, think about how many hours of contention and fighting and arguing we have avoided in our house because of that one tiny little rule. Think about another example. The discussion about not fussing, the food right? How many mealtime arguments have we avoided by having one small non-negotiable rule that says, we just eat what we’re given. So having this high leverage environment, where you think carefully about what’s non-negotiable in your house, little tiny things that have huge long term consequences is really important. Now there’s one other thing that we do in terms of our activities for these non-negotiables and we talked about the consequences and what’s going to happen, and then we immediately apply them, but oftentimes, there’s also positive consequences, like… I just saw this this morning as we were at breakfast. Margie is amazing at giving a lot of praise and a lot of love when the non-negotiables are honored. And so Margie called everyone into breakfast. Everyone came in and sat down. And Margie was like, “Thank you guys so much. We really appreciate you responded immediately…” And so there’s this ongoing positive feedback loop happening inside the environment based on these non-negotiables. Now little surprise,  the sort of surprise ending here, is this high leverage plan. I want to tell you just a quick story about the New York subways. So a number of years ago there were major problems in New York City. Huge crime rate, all kinds of issues. They kept trying to increase the police force, have more and more cops, and more and more enforcement and brutality go on inside of that environment and they found that they just could not curb all of the problems. So they brought in an expert, and he looked and he realized that a lot of the problems were starting in the subway system. So people weren’t paying to get in, there was a lot of graffiti, there were crimes going on, there were drug deals going on… And so he said, “Instead of trying to focus on all the issues happening inside of New York, let’s just clean out the subways. Let’s just make sure there’s never graffiti. They’re all clean. Everybody pays their token or their toll getting in, and there’s no drug deals. Let’s focus on one little area, and that’s the subways.” They decided to focus on the small things. And the result was that New York radically transformed in terms of it’s crime rate, because they focused on one little thing, and it was not breeding and infesting and causing long term problems. And we see that inside of our families.

MARGIE – Exactly. Yeah.

JOSHUA – When we focus on the little things, it creates really big results. Unfortunately most parents wait until the issues start and they become big issues, and then they’ve got to manage the big issues.

MARGIE – The big problem, and it’s so hard to manage that big one, whereas if you had started way back at the seeds that germinated the problem, you’re never going to have the big problems, so…

JOSHUA – Yep. So our encouragement to you today, our challenge is to sit down and to think carefully about non-negotiables. So what is something that you can create a clearly defined rule on, a clearly defined consequence on, and that you are willing to enforce immediately, both on the positive and on the negative sides? You know, the good and the bad, with praise and with other kinds of negative effects if they violate the non-negotiable, and then decide how you’re going to implement this and think in terms of high leverage. What are some little things you can do to create really big results? Would love to hear about it. Jump on the Facebook page and tell us all about it. And of course, as always, if you stick around for a few minutes, we have details on a free gift that we’ve got for you that will really help you take this principle and take it up to the next level to really help you get a lot more joy and peace out of your family. Thanks for listening today.

MARGIE – Thank you.


Stop Family Fights #1: Pattern Interupt

Stop Family Fights #1: Pattern Interupt



How do you stop your children from fighting, teasing and angry outbursts?

Margie and I talk about 3 specific parenting techniques you can use to instantly restore peace. Because, in the end, kids are inherently good and it’s up to you to help them resolve outbursts peacefully.

These 3 techniques will:

  • Help children obey happily without the fights
  • Help children stick to tasks better
  • End angry outbursts and sibling fighting

Hard to believe there may be a way to stop the fighting and disagreements, right?!

Well, we invite you to watch on and see for yourself!

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MARGIE – With 11 children in our home, sometimes there can be fights, right? There can be anger, frustration, arguing…

JOSHUA – Sure. So I think that’s common to all families, but the big questions is…

MARGIE – How do you stop the fight?

JOSHUA – Yeah. How do you stop it? How do you get back to peace and calm right in the moment? That’s what we’ve tried to do all these years, right?

MARGIE – We have. We really have.

JOSHUA – Okay. So what we have for you today is we’ve got one specific tactic, one thing that you can say. In fact, it’s really easy to do. It’s so simple you’ll think, “Oh, why didn’t I think of that before?” It’s very simple. You can do it and it’ll immediately, in most cases…

MARGIE – In most cases.

JOSHUA – It will Immediately stop the contention, the arguing, the frustration, and the anger outbursts, okay? So this particular tactic has three easy, really simple steps to it. We’re going to explain those three steps to you as we go along. Okay? Now, do you want to tell them about that?

MARGIE – Yeah. At the end of this video, we’re going to give you this special gift, so…

JOSHUA – Free special gift. It’s totally free. It’s yours. We’re going to help you out. Okay? Alright, now. This is what people ask us all the time, right?

MARGIE – They ask us, “Will it really work?” Now, for a majority of the time it will work. But it depends on your children, your home environment… kind of the nuances of your family life, and so if you haven’t watched our ROLE model video yet, you might want to take a peek at that, because it’ll explain the four different types of personalities that children usually fall into and certain ones will respond to this technique that we’re teaching you today.

JOSHUA – Okay. Should we tell them about the technique?

MARGIE – Yeah. Let’s do it.

JOSHUA – Okay. So the technique that we’re going to introduce to you today is very simply called Pattern Interrupt. Pattern interrupt. And Margie is an absolute master at this pattern interrupt idea. So do you want to sort of walk them through it and tell them how it works?

MARGIE – Well, how about just a story?

JOSHUA – That’s great. Tell them the story.

MARGIE – Okay. Let me tell you a story. So in our house, Sariah and Miriam do dishes in the morning… well, every meal, basically… and the coveted job of doing dishes is rinsing.

JOSHUA – I don’t know why. Maybe they like playing in the water or something. Who knows?

MARGIE – It’s warm, it’s clean… yeah, I don’t know what it is. But they always race to get over there, and so I walk in the other day, and Miriam’s saying, “I was here first, I get to rinse.”  And Sariah said, “But it’s my turn, you did the last time.” And they’re going back and forth and getting all frustrated with each other and…

JOSHUA – Because whoever rinses does not have to load the dishwasher. Apparently that’s harder than rinsing? I don’t  know.

MARGIE – So anyways, I walk in and I say, “Hey, girls, what… Miriam, what’s your favorite song? I’ve really been wanting to sing a song this morning.”

JOSHUA – Right. And you totally ignored the…

MARGIE – Right. I ignored the fighting, I walk in, pop a question at her, and she has to go, “What? What did you say?” She pauses a moment. She goes, “Oh, I really like… ‘I Love To See The Temple’…” or some song that she likes, yeah. And then I turn to Sariah, and I say, “How about you? What’s your favorite song?” And she tells me. And I say, “Okay. Let’s sing some of these songs, and then… look it! It’s so sunny outside, let’s go out and jump on the trampoline. Let’s go play.” Right? And so we start singing, and pretty soon, everything’s resolved, and I say, “Who’s turn really was it to do the dishes?” And then they can proceed and do their job the way they’re supposed to do it. And we peacefully come to a resolution.

Joshua – Right, right. So, I can share, do a follow-up on that. In our house, the boys, they’re all scientific minded, they study all this stuff, and then they like to argue about facts and have these discussions about, you know, what’s the actual temperature of the sun or how big is it or what’s the biggest star in the universe or… I don’t know, or what’s the actual chemical compound of water.

MARGIE – Boiling point of titanium.

JOSHUA – Right. Like really really important stuff. So I come in the other day, and of course, you know, they’re at it. And if we let this get out of control, like pretty soon, two of them will be discussing a point, then another couple will come in, and discuss it, then another couple, and pretty soon this is like, there’s all this conversation going. And I walked in the other day on a heated… just a bam-doozle of a debate and I just walked physically in and I physically go… because you know, they’re discussing and arguing and frustrated and “No, I know this,” and “Actually that” and blah. So I just walk right into the middle of the fray, and I turned to Isaac and I’m like, “Isaac, did you get the website stuff done that I asked you to do?” and he’s like, “What?” “The website stuff. Did you get it finished? The stuff I asked you to do on the website? Did you get it finished?” “No, you didn’t ask me to do anything.” “Oh, Brigham, did you get the website stuff done?” “No.” “Okay. You know, it looks like we need to have a business meeting. Everybody into my office. Let’s go have a business meeting.” So we go in there. We talk about some stuff I wanted done on the website, and we’ve got done with all that. I said, “Now, when we were doing… before we started all this, I noticed there was kind of a heated debate there. Do you guys need to kiss and make up, or we kind of got that resolved…?” And they’re like, “Eh, we.. nah, it wasn’t really that important, so it’s okay. Sorry, sorry.” And everybody moved on and it was fine. And we immediately stopped the stress-point that was happening in the home. Right? Now, here’s the interesting thing about it. The vast majority of the fears and the frustration, the anger and the outbursts and all the stuff that goes on inside of the home from day to day, the daily little stresses, are actually completely irrelevant. They’re not important at all, and they’re just in the heat of the moment. And what’s going on there, and why this pattern interrupt works so well, is that most of us get angry and are frustrated because we feel out of control, right? Or we feel like our expectation is not being met. So like we expect that everyone will just do things our way, or we expect dinner to be on the table at a certain time, or we expect to be able to lounge around and play on our iPads, or we expect… like all these different expectations, right?

MARGIE – Exactly.

JOSHUA – And what happens when people don’t have their expectations met?

MARGIE – They start getting frustrated and angry and…

JOSHUA  – Yeah. Right. They’re feeling out of control and so they turn on the game control pattern or tape that’s running around inside their head. And as soon as they do that, it almost always includes, you know, increased reaching and grabbing and being frustrated and like exhibiting force and really wanting it to get back to where things are meeting their expectations or running the way that they want it to run. Right? And so it’s not that they’re really angry, it’s just that there’s a pattern, there’s a thought that’s automatically rolling through their head and by using this three step process that we just explained to you in these two stories, what you do is you interrupt that pattern. And as soon as you interrupt the pattern, then it kind of snaps them out of hypnotic anger and frustration and averts their temperature elsewhere. So there are three steps to this interrupt process. Okay? So what’s the first one?

MARGIE – The first one is ask a very thoughtful question. Just pop a question that is totally out of the blue that they’re not even thinking of.

JOSHUA – Yeah. Now this is so powerful because the mind naturally is focused on answering questions. If I ask you a question right now, if I said, “Well, what did you have for breakfast this morning?” Then immediately your brain, without even thinking about it, a picture pops into your head of what you ate for breakfast. And if I said, “Well, what time do you have to be to work?” Immediately you’re going to have this picture come into your mind about I’ve got to be… Almost subconsciously, automatically, because we’re designed to answer questions. And it takes a lot of anger and frustration to override that natural urge to answer questions. So because most things that we’re fighting about and frustrated about inside of our homes is totally trivial, by asking a specific question that forces them to think, they’re like… their brain automatically goes, “[braking sounds] Wait, I’ve got to answer this question.” And they turn and they’re like I’ve got to do something different, right? So it interrupts that pattern, and so that’s the first step, is asking them a question that causes them to think. Second one. Second one.

MARGIE – Get a new focus. Divert their attention to a new focus.

JOSHUA – So remember when Margie was like, “Well, what’s your favorite song? Let’s sing a song. And by the way, it’s a nice day outside. When we’re done with the dishes, we’ll go outside and play, right?” Like, taking their whole attention and moving it into something that is positive, that’s rewarding, that you know engages them, that’s important to them. So I did that by asking the boys, “Hey, did you finish the website?” Now we do a family business together, so it was like website? What do you mean? Right? So get them focused on something else. Finally, you can’t just leave an open loop.

MARGIE – You’ve got to have a peaceful resolution. Resolve it peacefully. It’s no big deal. These are great kids. They’re not bad just because they’re fighting. They’re good kids and help them see that it’s been peacefully resolved and we’re going to go on our way happily.

JOSHUA – Now you don’t want to just leave it open. So like with the dishes and with the other conversation… you don’t want to just leave an open loop, because then it’ll kind of fester inside of them. It only takes a couple of seconds, like “You guys cool now, or we need to kiss and make up, or whose job was it really on the dishes? Okay. Well no problem. Next time we’ll maybe change that around but we’re good, let’s just keep moving forward. So you kind of close that loop so they have resolution, so then they can move on, appologize if needed, and just restore peace and calm back to the home. Okay? So if you’ll use these three techniques… so asking the questions…

MARGIE – Refocus.

JOSHUA – Creating a new focus, and then having a peaceful resolution. You’ll be astonished at how quickly you can defuse a situation and restore some peace and harmony back into the home. Okay?

MARGIE – I’m anxious to hear how it worked in their family!

JOSHUA – Wouldn’t that be cool? We would love for you to drop some comments and also as we say, share the joy. So right here on this page, go ahead and click and share this video out, and allow other people to get this information, use these three little steps to help defuse their own and bring a little bit more peace and joy back into their house. Now also we promised them a free gift.

MARGIE – That’s right. Tell them about the free gift.

JOSHUA – So the free gift, we’ve got a free gift for you and we are constantly trying to think of ways we can improve our parenting and bring more joy and more happiness into the family and so we’ve got a free gift for you. It’s a parenting system that will allow you to not just… you know, we talked today about how to get instant results, like how do you immediately defuse a situation. But what if you could create an environment in your home so that those angry outbursts and that frustration got less and less and less and less and fewer and fewer occasions? Yeah. So you’re not having to use these techniques as often as you maybe normally would and so what we’d encourage you to do is not only share this video, this message with somebody else, but also we’re going to encourage you to get our free site…. So you can get free instant access. You click on one of the buttons down below here. And also if you want more details on a particular offer, stay tuned, and we’ll give you all the details and insights. Give you insights on how you can get it instantly right now and figure out how to have long term peace and greater joy inside your family, okay?

MARGIE – Sounds great!

JOSHUA – Awesome. Thanks for listening. Bye now.

What’s the Best Way to Discipline Your Child?

What’s the Best Way to Discipline Your Child?


What’s the best way to discipline your child?

The reality is… what works for little “Johnny” just might ruin little “Suzzie”. Each child is different. Sometimes VERY different. And in parenting, one size does NOT fit all.

To make it all work with our 11 children, Margie and I use the R.O.L.E. model method. We learn the personality of each child and whether they are an R, O, L or E.  That then defines the type of discipline we use.

Curious to learn more?!

Watch the video above for the full lesson!

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MARGIE – Why do some children respond to certain discipline and others don’t? And how do you know what’s best for each child?

JOSHUA – Yeah, that can be maddening for a parent. What we discovered early on is we had Esther, and we were like, “We’ve got this parenting thing down.” We sort of figured out what makes her tick, and then Joshua and Jared came around, and it was completely irrelevant. So what worked for Esther did not work for Joshua and Jared and subsequent other children. So what makes the difference for your children? Well, to help you understand that, I want to tell you a quick story. The other night, we had some friends over. They’ve got a number of little children. We still have little children in the home, and they were all running around, and we were having this lesson, and we were teaching them some stuff, and talking, interacting, the adults were. And the children were just driving us crazy. And so I looked over to Enoch and I said, “Enoch. Your behavior is inappropriate. Sit down, and be quiet.” And immediately, boom. He looked around, sat down, and it was done.

MARGIE – On the other hand, Eve, we knew, words were not going to help. So I picked her up, physically restrained her. This is what we’re doing now. She sat on my lap. Now, a lot of parents ask us, how do we have such well behaved children? We get that all the time. Now let me tell you, it’s because we took the time to learn their individual learning styles and their personality style and their pain points.

JOSHUA – Now this is really important to understand that in parenting, one size definitely does not fit all. So what works for one child very likely won’t work for another child. And often, children are very different from their parents. In other words, what you think would motivate you or would inspire you very well may have completely no impact on one of your children.

MARGIE – You know, we have a model that really helps us and we want to share it with you today. We call it the ROLE model. R-O-L-E.

JOSHUA – Yeah. So to understand the ROLE model, I want to take you back really quick into medical history. It used to be that when people got sick, doctors would throw herbs or medicine or liquids at them and they discovered that some things worked and other things didn’t work. They didn’t have a model for why something worked and why something didn’t. Then Louis Pasteur came along and realized that there’s stuff called bacteria and there’s penicillin and there’s actually a cause and effect thing going on inside of our bodies. And once they had that model, that allowed all of modern medicine to begin to roll forward at a drastically accelerated pace. We could heal people because we could discover what was going on and we had a model for addressing the problem.

MARGIE – So we wanted a model for our family! And as we said before, we use what we call the ROLE model. And let me tell you about the first letter, R.

JOSHUA – What does it all stand for?

MARGIE – R. The letter R on ROLE model. R stands for Rock. Now this is a child that tends to be quiet, they’re really grounded and consistent, wouldn’t you say? Stubborn, like a rock. They’re a really good listener and they’re like a counselor or a therapist or a comforter. They give a lot of comfort.

JOSHUA – Yeah, lots of comfort. The O in R-O-L-E stands for the Organizer. Now, the Organizer, as you may have guessed, is very organized. They tend to be great at math, at music and drama. They’re very observant and very intuitive about all the stuff that’s going on around them. So think about great engineers or actors or musicians. Most of these people tend to have this Organizer personality type.

MARGIE – Now the L. The L stands for the Leader.

JOSHUA – That’s Margie, right?

MARGIE – And several of our children are Leaders.

JOSHUA – That is very much so.

MARGIE – They’re naturally assertive. They like to take charge. They love action and getting things done and you can think of maybe like a CEO, a prominent politician or other people that are in the forefront, leading the way. Right?

JOSHUA – Anybody that’s just out there making things happen, that’s the Leader. And that’s Margie, right. Okay. And the E stands for the Energizer. These are the happy optimistic people. They love to help.

MARGIE – Like Joshua.

JOSHUA – Right. They are natural people persons and salesmen and they’re… think about the great motivators and speakers and cheerleaders. Anyone that’s out there just, inside of a family or organization, just keeping things fun and lively and engaging… those are your Energizers.

MARGIE – That’s right. Now the type of personality your children are defines the type of discipline that you use. It’s very important.

JOSHUA – Yes. So think about a puzzle piece, right? Like, a certain personality is going to have a certain learning style and a certain receptor that’s going to connect with them and resonate with them.

MARGIE – For example, Enoch. He has a lot of organizer. So when we pointed out his behavior was out of line, boom. He just immediately complied.

JOSHUA – Right. So he had a certain behavior that was going on, and we fit in the discipline style we knew would resonate with him, and immediate compliance. Eve, on the other hand. She’s got a lot of the Leader in her, just like her mother, right? So when we just said words to her, they just rolled right off her. Especially at that young age, the language of restraint was the language that she understood. She understood action and getting things done, and so when Margie went and picked her up and set her down on her lap and folded her arms around her, she understood that language. “Oh, I need to sit still.”

MARGIE – Now I know. Now, if it had been Jared, who is the Energizer in the family, we would have threatened to isolate him to his bedroom.

JOSHUA – Remember that time we had the sliding glass door and we had a bunch of people over and he was going crazy? And we banished him outside. It was a nice day. But we banished him outside, and we had the glass door, and he could see what was going on.

MARGIE – He could watch all the fun and not be a part of it. Now that’s horrible for an Energizer. They don’t want to miss out on any fun.

JOSHUA – Just brutal. Finally, if it had been Brigham, who is the Rock in our family, I could have just given him a stern look across the room, like. Brigham.

MARGIE – I’m disappointed in you.

JOSHUA – Exactly. I’m disappointed in you. Or I’m really sad, or a sad look. Like he’d really hurt my feelings or whatnot. That would have done the job. Except usually Rocks are not your behavior problem.

MARGIE – That’s true.

JOSHUA – So it would have been rare that he did it anyways. But if it had been him, that would have done the job.

MARGIE – That’s true. In the end, you need to remember that what works for little Johnny just might destroy little Sue.

JOSHUA – Now this is really important, because each child is so different. It’s not just that it wouldn’t work for them. Some things literally will disrupt the child, and really could damage and hurt and destroy them if you’re not doing things in a way that really resonates with them. So our challenge to you today is to spend some time and really observe your child and to discover what your child’s ROLE is, and then adjust… ROLE, as in R-O-L-E… and then adjust your discipline and parenting style accordingly. And you’ll discover that where there’s a more accurate fit, the more you can resonate with who the child is naturally, then the more they will respond, and you’ll be amazed at the response you’ll get.

MARGIE – True. So true. We would love to hear about your children and their ROLE and how you discovered it and what makes a difference in your family. So feel free to comment below here and tell us all about it. 

JOSHUA – We would absolutely love to hear all about it. So. Can’t wait to hear your story. Thanks so much. Talk to you later.

3 Keys to Protect Your Family From Pornography

3 Keys to Protect Your Family From Pornography

How do you protect your family from the evils of pornography?

And, if some of your family has become ensnared in this trap, how do you help them heal from the wounds?

Recently, a group of just over 200 mothers gathered together for a special women’s conference. They asked me to address the very sensitive topic of pornography.

I believe there are 3 very specific, simple things you can do to protect your family from pornography and bring hope and healing to those who have been wounded.

NOTE: This talk is specifically tailored for an LDS audience. It contains a whole lotta “mormon lingo”… but, I believe the principles are fundamentally sound and will help any family, of any faith.

How to Help Your Child Reach for Greatness

How to Help Your Child Reach for Greatness


Have you ever wondered how to motivate your child/children and give them something to strive toward?

How can you, as parents, help them achieve their full potential that will help draw them up to a higher level of excellence and achievement?

  •  Turn unlikable projects into a game to make them fun. Brigham, at age 5 or 6, was challenged to see how fast he could unload the dishwasher. It became a challenge and a game. Eventually he got it to 2 minutes.
  • Challenge younger children to follow the positive examples of older siblings. This is a powerful form of social proof and very motivating. Enoch (age 5) was told the story of his older brother and challenged to hit the same goal.
  • Encourage older siblings to mentor younger ones. Modeling right behavior is a wonderful way to inspire and teach. Brigham coached Enoch to learn how to do dishes really fast.
  • Praise results… even if they aren’t that great at first. Encouragement and love are better than criticism and discipline. Enoch was slow and didn’t put things in the right place at first. But with praise, he got better and better.
  • Give children ownership and responsibility. Let them take pride in their work. Enoch was happy to milk goats every morning and try harder and harder to get a full milk pail when he had his own, nice pail and got paid when the milk sold.

Children want to be great. They want to feel important. They want to be pushed to do more and be better.

Help them reach their full potential by expecting more, praising more, and giving them a mentor and tools to raise up.

Watch the video above for the full lesson so that you can help your child REACH FOR GREATNESS.

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JOSHUA – A little while ago we did a little video segment on how to get your children to do hard things. We talked about our daughter begging us to mow the lawn at 10, 11 years old. We had so many great comments on that one we thought we’d do a little follow-up onto that. This little follow-up starts when our son Brigham… how old was Brigham at the time? Five or six?

MARGIE – Five or six. Yeah.

JOSHUA- Five or six. We put the idea into his head that it shouldn’t take forever to unload the dishwasher. That was his job. Was it load and unload?

MARGIE – Load and unload, yeah.

JOSHUA – Okay, so he had to load and unload the dishwasher.

MARGIE – After every meal.

JOSHUA – And Brigham, he’s a methodical, timepiece type of a guy, and so we bought him a stopwatch and he would set his timer and he would be like, “Alright, how fast can I load and unload the dishwasher?” And he’d set the timer and just go as fast as he could and try to figure out efficient ways to do it. Now this is a five and six and seven years old, and he got it down to, one day I think in like two minutes, he got the entire dishwasher unloaded and loaded, and this was a full set of dishes. This wasn’t like one or two plates. We have a big family. So it was a lot of dishes.

MARGIE – And they were all rinsed, ready for him, but he just unloaded, and then reloaded it.

JOSHUA – Now, there’s actually a whole tactic around how we actually got him to do that, but there’s a follow-up story that’s great. Our son Enoch turned five not too long ago, and we were changing up jobs in the house, and we were like, “Maybe, I don’t know. Enoch, maybe you could start unloading and loading the dishwasher and… but probably not. You’re probably not big enough. But you know, when Brigham was your age, Enoch, he could do one” … well we have two dishwashers now but then it was one… “Brigham could do this in two, two and a half minutes, and have it done, but you’re probably not strong enough for that, so we’ll give you like… I don’t know, you take your time doing it. It’s alright.” And Enoch was, “I could do that. I could do those dishes.” And so I, “No, no, you’re not quite old enough or big enough yet to get all that stuff done, so hey, don’t worry about it.” Well…

MARGIE – A day or two later… how long was it?

JOSHUA – Yeah, a couple days later, two things happened there. Brigham heard us telling this story and so Brigham pulled Enoch aside and was like, “Let’s show them what we can do.” Right? And Brigham started interacting with his little brother, and showing him some of the tips and tricks he’d do and started timing him, and helping him to do it more efficiently. And so one day, Enoch comes just strutting into my office and you’ve got to know Enoch. You know, we’ve got to give Enoch more of a… in fact, we’ve got a cool video of him telling about this, so we’ll show that to you… So he comes just strutting in and he walks and he’s like, “Dad. Guess what.” Like, “What buddy? What’s going on?” And he goes, “Five minutes, Dad!” I’m like, “What?” And he goes, “Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah.” And then he proceeds telling me how he’d got both dishwashers done and emptied all the silverware and organized the silverware drawer as a service for his sister.

MARGIE – For his little sister.

JOSHUA – Little Eve. That’s her job.

MARGIE – Two years old.

JOSHUA – Yeah. And he had done this whole thing for her, just as a service thing, and as a surprise for her, and he had done it all in five minutes. And he was so excited about it and you know, his confidence was there. Now, that’s crazy. How do you get a five year old super wired up and excited about doing dishes? I can’t… You know, Margie still has an allergic reaction to dishes, and now our five-year-old is super-super-duper excited to do it.


ENOCH – I did both dishwashers. I did Eve’s silverware.

JOSHUA – Yeah?

ENOCH – With two silverwares in the drawer and I did it in five minutes.

JOSHUA – You’ve done both dishwashers, all the silverware, in the drawer, and did service for your little sister Eve, and you did it in less than five minutes?

ENOCH – Yes.

JOSHUA – No way. You’re amazing! Dude, right here. Knuck’s, pound me out, baby. Boom! You’re awesome. Thanks for doing service, buddy. Love you.

ENOCH – Love you too.


MARGIE – I have another story about Enoch.

JOSHUA – Oh yeah. Go ahead.

MARGIE – Okay, so Christmas is coming. We had just gotten some new goats, and they were milking the goats, and there’s… Our two girls go out every morning and every night to milk the goats.

JOSHUA – Now they’re out there every morning, usually by 6:30, 7 o’clock.

MARGIE – Early in the morning, yeah. And so I had this great idea. For Christmas, I got Enoch a little milk pail! A little one!

JOSHUA – His very own little milk pail!

MARGIE – His hands are still pretty small for milking, so I thought, well, let’s give this to him for Christmas. It’ll be a big deal, and he can start trying to milk.

JOSHUA – So we put it into a box and it’s all wrapped up and nice.

MARGIE – It’s a big box, and so a few days after Christmas, he’s out there with his milk pail, and he’s like, “I’m going to try and milk!” And he went out there, and he got a little bit of milk.

JOSHUA – Like that much down at the bottom. A couple of squirts.

MARGIE – And he was so excited. I took a picture of this too! He came in, “Mom, look how much milk I got. Look how much milk I got out of Sadie!” Our goat, Sadie. So he was so excited, and now, every morning, he doesn’t want to miss his chance. He used to sleep in until 7:30, 8. He wakes up at 6:30 to 6:45 because he doesn’t want to miss his chance to get out there and…

JOSHUA – And his goal. So it started here, then it went to here, and then it’s like he just dreams of the day when he can fill that whole goat, you know, that pail with goat milk, and milk out an entire goat.

MARGIE – And actually the other night, he came in, and he was in tears. He was literally crying. “What’s wrong, buddy?” He said, “I spilled the milk. I had a whole pail and I spilled it on the way in. I was running…”

JOSHUA – Running and so excited that he tripped. Ah!

MARGIE – And he was just crying.

JOSHUA – And then we had a whole lesson on “don’t cry over spilled milk”. It’s alright. So what’s the principle behind this? Well the principle we’re talking about here, and it works with teenagers. It works with little children. It works with toddlers. It works with elementary… It’s just part of human nature and that is, when you give them something to strive toward, a higher level of excellence, you show them that it’s possible. We as human beings, we have natural ambition, and we want to move toward higher plane, and so you’ve got to create those higher planes. Create those higher levels of achievement and give them rewards and motivation a little bit of competition, and help draw them up towards greater heights and to greater excellence. So here’s our invitation for you today. Think about activities that you would really like your child to do. Whatever it is, but think about their full potential. So carefully observe them, and notice what their full potential is. And then, sit down and say, “Okay. They’re doing this level of achievement. They’re doing this good at piano, this good at that, whatever.” And find a way to create an environment, in the way that we’ve just described, and help draw them up to a higher level of excellence, to encourage them to do more. To spur them on to be a little more refined in their manners, a little better in how they eat, a little better about their writing, a little bit better about whatever. And always be putting that next level out there in front of them. And if you do, what you’ll find is number one, putting it out there and just making the suggestion shows that you have confidence in them and they just love that. Don’t they love that? They thrive under that. And the second thing is, as you’ve set that standard, it’s their natural instinct to want to achieve and do better will draw them up forward and they’ll start to go after their ambitions and start to achieve more and to be more and to have more, and they’ll be so much happier and so much more fulfilled, and feel so much better about themselves as they go through that process. So that’s your assignment. Jump onto the Facebook page. We’d love to hear from you, and about what you wanted your child to excel at. How you encouraged them to excel, and what the results were.

MARGIE – That’s right. Exactly.

JOSHUA – Okay? Alright. Great. Thanks for listening. We’ll talk to you soon. Bye now.



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MARGIE – You ever felt friction in your home, or stress in your marriage? Do you ever wish your kids would do more? Or do you ever feel overwhelmed? If so, then how are you going to change it?

JOSHUA – Yeah. What are you going to do different?

MARGIE – That’s right. Now in our family, with 11 children and Joshua and I both pretty strong willed…

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MARGIE – … there’s a lot of opportunity for stress.

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JOSHUA – This is the exact same system, the same principles, that Margie and I use with our very large and challenging family to reduce stress, reduce friction and have more peace and more joy inside of our family life.

MARGIE – Thanks for coming here today. Thanks for listening. We’ll see you on the next episode. But until then, show real love to your family, cherish your family, and create more joy.

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